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Zep0Q
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Before you comment, please, read everything, I'm sure that after you read, your life will be changed.

In the following sentences I will explain how stupid is to not believe in God, and I'm gonna use logical thinking and science.

Either "Everything came from nothing", like the "big bang" , witch is impossible, because nothing can only make nothing, or "Something always existed and made everything" like God.

God made this world, by this world I mean time, space and matter, so if God made this world, He lives outside of time, space and matter which means He's eternal, omnipresent and all-powerful.

For those of you who say that the big bang made the universe, I have this sentence: Nothing is the cause of it's own existence.
This doesn't apply to God, because if He doesn't lives in time, He didn't had a beginning, He always existed.
If the universe always was then, we could not reach this moment in time, if something is trapped in time, that means it had a beginning.

Every change that happens everywhere in the universe it's more closer to destruction.
Second law of thermodynamics:
The energy available after a chemical reaction is less than that at the beginning of a reaction; energy conversions are not 100% efficient.
The disorder in the universe always increases.
With each change in form, some energy is degraded to a less useful form and given off into the surroundings, usually as low-quality heat.
The Second Law of Thermodynamics is commonly known as the Law of Increased Entropy. While quantity remains the same, the quality of matter/energy deteriorates gradually over time. How so? Usable energy is inevitably used for productivity, growth and repair. In the process, usable energy is converted into unusable energy. Thus, usable energy is irretrievably lost in the form of unusable energy.

If God didn't made life, then how did non-life, became life?
As I said, nothing is the cause of it's own existence, life comes from life, your parents were alive when they made you.

Did you knew that a 2x2 inch capacity full with someone's DNA can sustain 6000000000 times more information then a 140 GB hard drive?
I guess you didn't knew, did evolution made your DNA?
God made your DNA, of course!

What about the monkeys?
If we evolved from them, why they stayed as they are? they took a long coffee break, I guess.

What about the fossils?
The scientists say that it takes millions and billions and zilions of years for living tissue to become a fossil, well here's 2 pictures with a cawboy's leg fossilized, enjoy
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http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-outside.jpg
2#
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-inside.jpg

After all I have showed you, now I'm gonna say that you should accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, because He died for our sins and He didn't ask something from us, just to love our brothers and sisters and to believe in Him.
Anyone can ask for forgiveness as long as he or she is not dead, no matter what they did God can forgive them, if they repent from theirs sins and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
God is mercyful and just, His justice is not denyed by His mercy and this is the reason why God sent His Son Jesus to pay the price for us.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

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marton96
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Oh i can accept the truth you cant God did not do any thing to better any ones lives in the first place if he made any thing at all (which he did not that is retarded) so you stow it.

BigP08
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thisisnotanalt, you're more blind then a blind man without eyes.

Alt is one of the best debaters on AG, and if he was blind he wouldn't be able to see the keyboard
But if he learned where all the keys were, maybe he could post. It would be hard to use a mouse, though.
Once again, you haven't refuted your opponent, only insulted and ultimately made yourself and all those who follow your religion look ignorant and close-minded.
marton96
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Alt is one of the best debaters on AG, and if he was blind he wouldn't be able to see the keyboard
But if he learned where all the keys were, maybe he could post. It would be hard to use a mouse, though.
Once again, you haven't refuted your opponent, only insulted and ultimately made yourself and all those who follow your religion look ignorant and close-minded.


It was a metaphor but i concur.
thisisnotanalt
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this kind of evolution makes from a dog a rat and from a rat a bug


Macroevolution doesn't make random animals cross phylums. >.>

Lol.

By the way, you can't call something scientific, untill you can test it, repeat it, observe it.
Bigbang is just a theory, nothing more.


The Big Bang is a theory - a scientific theory. A widely accepted, credible scientific theory. Genesis is. . .either a good 60s band or an unsupported book of religious conjecture.

He used His holy power, that's all.


Wouldn't it be possible for his 'holy power' to manifest itself as a big explosion? :P

TSL3_needed, who cares? we Christians already won, I'm just trying to make people to come on the winners side.


Okay, this kinda pissed me off.

*deep inhalation of air*

Please don't be offended by the following blast of rage.

*exhale, inhale*

ARE YOU C**KING KIDDING ME?

Your logic is twisted, you don't even have the slightest understanding of the theories you tried to refute and failed epically to, you're showing absolutely no respect to your ALLIES in this debate, your points are sh*t, and oyu're saying you WON THIS DEBATE?

Take a chill pill, swallow your pride and look at reality, bud.

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The Troll Meter is almost exploding at oyu right now. . .I'd better not stick around here. . . .
Zep0Q
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BigP08, please, stop debating with me, we wouldn't obtain nothing, try to debate with those who do not believe in God, lets show them how wrong they are.

ligaboy
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Either "Everything came from nothing", like the "big bang"


Oh jeez.
Please read this, and actually learn what the big bang theory is


because nothing can only make nothing, or "Something always existed and made everything" like God.


So nothing can only make nothing but god, made out of nothing, made everything out of nothing. You are just so intelligent(rolls eyes)


Did you knew that a 2x2 inch capacity full with someone's DNA can sustain 6000000000 times more information then a 140 GB hard drive?
I guess you didn't knew, did evolution made your DNA?
God made your DNA, of course!


That doesn't prove the existence of god at all, it just proves that DNA is extremely complex.

What about the monkeys?
If we evolved from them, why they stayed as they are? they took a long coffee break, I guess.


*sigh* We didn't evolve from monkeys.
Again, read first, then argue.
BigP08
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It was a metaphor but i concur.

Yeah, I was joking about the blind thing.
Zootsuit_riot
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Genesis is. . .either a good 60s band or an unsupported book of religious conjecture.


Genesis is from the 80's, thank you very much.
Zep0Q
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You're too many, I can't speak with all of you at the same time.

VoteSocialist
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Your logic is twisted, you don't even have the slightest understanding of the theories you tried to refute and failed epically to, you're showing absolutely no respect to your ALLIES in this debate, your points are sh*t, and oyu're saying you WON THIS DEBATE?
Take a chill pill, swallow your pride and look at reality, bud.


Heh, you wondered why I was talking that way to HiddenDistance...
thisisnotanalt
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thisisnotanalt, you're more blind then a blind man without eyes.
Why you don't do some research about your believes, and then come here and comment, if everyone who posted a comment on this topic would do that, it would be great, and also someone of the atheists would shut up, because they don't want to accept the truth.


Why don't you look at reality? YO, my homeez'll defend me here.

I've done my research. You haven't. YOu're incorrect about all of these theories.

Also, I love how instead of trying to atgue my points, you just flamed me. Golden.

Also, I'm not atheist. I haven't decided yet. I've just done hours of research.

Also. . .are you like 6 years old? I would say 12, but I'm 12 so I would kinda be insulting myself. . . .

*dusts off laff track, presses 'rampant applause' button*

Genesis is from the 80's, thank you very much.


They're one of my favorite bands and I'm tired. Sorry.
BigP08
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BigP08, please, stop debating with me, we wouldn't obtain nothing, try to debate with those who do not believe in God, lets show them how wrong they are.

What they have presented is not wrong. They have used only facts, while you have used opinions and morals that we happen to agree on. Read ligaboy's links, gain knowledge, and then argue on scientific level. In case you're wondering why I haven't attacked the atheists on here, it's because they haven't said anything I disagree with.

Please stop pretending like we're on the same side. This thread's purpose was to refute atheism, and I believe that you have not adequetly accomplished that goal, and that I cannot adequetly accomplish that goal. Therefore, I will try to spark discussion with a few things I can talk about.

And just so you know, I despise close-minded statements, even if they exist in my favor.
ligaboy
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You're too many, I can't speak with all of you at the same time.


Seems all you can do is ignore every intelligent post opposing you're religion
marton96
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You're too many, I can't speak with all of you at the same time.




You think god would take a little time to protect a prophet. Especially one so faithful.
Pois0nArr0w
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Oh i can accept the truth you cant God did not do any thing to better any ones lives in the first place if he made any thing at all (which he did not that is retarded) so you stow it.


Wat? I'm having a hard time deciphering your post... Here, have some extra period keys. They're quite useful when engaging in conversation over the internet.
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